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	<title>Comments on: Apple Should have Five Minute Proofed those MacBooks</title>
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		<title>By: mjagger</title>
		<link>http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2009/09/apple-should-have-five-minute-proofed-those-macbooks.html/comment-page-1/#comment-968</link>
		<dc:creator>mjagger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 22:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It can, but only if the unit gets registered (as far as I know). Here&#039;s a link to a Dateline story from a while ago that did an investigation into iPod thefts... and tracked down a bunch of the thieves. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20078671/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It can, but only if the unit gets registered (as far as I know). Here&#8217;s a link to a Dateline story from a while ago that did an investigation into iPod thefts&#8230; and tracked down a bunch of the thieves. <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20078671/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20078671/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Poster</title>
		<link>http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2009/09/apple-should-have-five-minute-proofed-those-macbooks.html/comment-page-1/#comment-967</link>
		<dc:creator>Poster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 19:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when you go online with a mac ... can a mac/serialnumber be tracked down?</description>
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		<title>By: Apple Store Specialist</title>
		<link>http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2009/09/apple-should-have-five-minute-proofed-those-macbooks.html/comment-page-1/#comment-966</link>
		<dc:creator>Apple Store Specialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;joe Says: 
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:54 am
they were 5-minute proofed. walk into any apple store — all the machines are Kensington cable locked.

this was an inside job. someone removed the locks before the break-in.&quot;

Have you ever BEEN in an Apple Store? Nothing is Kensington locked except the POS MacBook Pros at the Genius Bar (and other bars/cashwraps depending on store configuration). Nothing. I&#039;m not giving anything away here — you could walk into any Apple Store and see the same for yourself. There are alarms and other deterrents, but no Kensington or other cable-style locks. 

It&#039;s a branding decision, like the front doors without gates. The stores are positioned and branded to be completely accessible to customers (like the products). There is a calculated and accepted risk of easier theft than if the machines were more solidly locked down, but then customers couldn&#039;t pick up and handle the products, a big part of what incites people to buy them. This isn&#039;t Best Buy or CompUSA (R.I.P.) we&#039;re talking about here. It&#039;s Apple. And not only does Apple have deep pockets, they have more sales per sq. foot than retailers like Tiffany. They also have insurance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;joe Says:<br />
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:54 am<br />
they were 5-minute proofed. walk into any apple store — all the machines are Kensington cable locked.</p>
<p>this was an inside job. someone removed the locks before the break-in.&#8221;</p>
<p>Have you ever BEEN in an Apple Store? Nothing is Kensington locked except the POS MacBook Pros at the Genius Bar (and other bars/cashwraps depending on store configuration). Nothing. I&#8217;m not giving anything away here — you could walk into any Apple Store and see the same for yourself. There are alarms and other deterrents, but no Kensington or other cable-style locks. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a branding decision, like the front doors without gates. The stores are positioned and branded to be completely accessible to customers (like the products). There is a calculated and accepted risk of easier theft than if the machines were more solidly locked down, but then customers couldn&#8217;t pick up and handle the products, a big part of what incites people to buy them. This isn&#8217;t Best Buy or CompUSA (R.I.P.) we&#8217;re talking about here. It&#8217;s Apple. And not only does Apple have deep pockets, they have more sales per sq. foot than retailers like Tiffany. They also have insurance.</p>
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		<title>By: Ry</title>
		<link>http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2009/09/apple-should-have-five-minute-proofed-those-macbooks.html/comment-page-1/#comment-960</link>
		<dc:creator>Ry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 01:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The commentator says &quot;watch again as the theives show skilled practice at the art of bringing down that plate glass door&quot;...

It seems to me they just threw a brick threw it. Not much &#039;skill&#039; or &#039;art&#039; in that.

Goes to show that the average burglar is quite unsophisticated, using crude, but effective techniques. 

These were not the &#039;cat burglars&#039; of the movies. They saw an easy target and went for it. If the target was hardened, so that a simple &#039;brick hurling&#039; not allow entry, they would have gone on to the easier target down the street. 

Totally agree with security lamination. If the brick bounced off the window, at the same time setting off a glass break audible alarm, they would probably have run off, realising their genius &#039;brick plan&#039; had been foiled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The commentator says &#8220;watch again as the theives show skilled practice at the art of bringing down that plate glass door&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>It seems to me they just threw a brick threw it. Not much &#8217;skill&#8217; or &#8216;art&#8217; in that.</p>
<p>Goes to show that the average burglar is quite unsophisticated, using crude, but effective techniques. </p>
<p>These were not the &#8216;cat burglars&#8217; of the movies. They saw an easy target and went for it. If the target was hardened, so that a simple &#8216;brick hurling&#8217; not allow entry, they would have gone on to the easier target down the street. </p>
<p>Totally agree with security lamination. If the brick bounced off the window, at the same time setting off a glass break audible alarm, they would probably have run off, realising their genius &#8216;brick plan&#8217; had been foiled.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2009/09/apple-should-have-five-minute-proofed-those-macbooks.html/comment-page-1/#comment-959</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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http://www.eveshampd.org/Press%20Releases/09-02-09.htm</description>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agree about the lamination or film.  but guard himself should&#039;ve sounded the alarm.  apple won&#039;t go for gates -- they&#039;d lose more in sales/image than to thievery.

there is a jewelry store in the same strip mall that has been robbed several times.

i used to live in that town, Marlton.  moved away last year.  it is being overrun by the desperately lazy/poor that surround Philly (Camden).

http://www.eveshampd.org/press_release_september.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agree about the lamination or film.  but guard himself should&#8217;ve sounded the alarm.  apple won&#8217;t go for gates &#8212; they&#8217;d lose more in sales/image than to thievery.</p>
<p>there is a jewelry store in the same strip mall that has been robbed several times.</p>
<p>i used to live in that town, Marlton.  moved away last year.  it is being overrun by the desperately lazy/poor that surround Philly (Camden).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eveshampd.org/press_release_september.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.eveshampd.org/press_release_september.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: mjagger</title>
		<link>http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2009/09/apple-should-have-five-minute-proofed-those-macbooks.html/comment-page-1/#comment-957</link>
		<dc:creator>mjagger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that was the case, it should be a daily security procedure to check that those cables are still there. Irrespective, the most important five-minute proofing should have happened at the front door... by using laminated glass &amp;/or security film, expandable gates and glassbreak detection. 

If all of those are in place, it makes it much harder to pull off an inside job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that was the case, it should be a daily security procedure to check that those cables are still there. Irrespective, the most important five-minute proofing should have happened at the front door&#8230; by using laminated glass &amp;/or security film, expandable gates and glassbreak detection. </p>
<p>If all of those are in place, it makes it much harder to pull off an inside job.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they were 5-minute proofed.  walk into any apple store -- all the machines are Kensington cable locked.

this was an inside job.  someone removed the locks before the break-in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they were 5-minute proofed.  walk into any apple store &#8212; all the machines are Kensington cable locked.</p>
<p>this was an inside job.  someone removed the locks before the break-in.</p>
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