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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing.

Face it, the world is a very dirty place, with all the crime, corruption and extortion that goes on every day, and in some cases, legally. Why should the walls be so clean when the actions that occur inside them are so dirty?

In a way its sort of like pokemon shaped LSD, and plastic surgery.

I guess most people just like the idea of masking reality, just enough so they dont have to face the blatantly obvious fact that it is far from a perfect place in any respect. Alot of graff artists see through that, and feel that this layer should be removed. Less then perfect actions = less then perfect environments. Which, in a way, creates beauty. Beauty that the people who defend the barrier wouldnt see or understand. Its raw, its real.


Also, i would like you to announce on the blog your mistake for claiming a post from some one with an open mind is &quot;no doubt from a local tagger&quot;. You jump to a conclusion very quickly there, and the confidence in which you say it provides readers with false information, which will have them thinking that anyone who appreciates graff has to be a graff artist.</description>
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<p>Face it, the world is a very dirty place, with all the crime, corruption and extortion that goes on every day, and in some cases, legally. Why should the walls be so clean when the actions that occur inside them are so dirty?</p>
<p>In a way its sort of like pokemon shaped LSD, and plastic surgery.</p>
<p>I guess most people just like the idea of masking reality, just enough so they dont have to face the blatantly obvious fact that it is far from a perfect place in any respect. Alot of graff artists see through that, and feel that this layer should be removed. Less then perfect actions = less then perfect environments. Which, in a way, creates beauty. Beauty that the people who defend the barrier wouldnt see or understand. Its raw, its real.</p>
<p>Also, i would like you to announce on the blog your mistake for claiming a post from some one with an open mind is &#8220;no doubt from a local tagger&#8221;. You jump to a conclusion very quickly there, and the confidence in which you say it provides readers with false information, which will have them thinking that anyone who appreciates graff has to be a graff artist.</p>
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		<link>http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2008/06/kerrisdale-tagger-update.html/comment-page-1/#comment-676</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;no doubt from a local tagger&quot;. I don&#039;t write. I would have no problem sharing with you what i write if i did, but frankly, i&#039;m just not a very creative person. Let me tell you a bit about who i am. I am a &#039;teen&#039; growing up in a world which has an underlying twisted sense of values and priorities. While i understand why such systems could work in the past, i feel strongly that change needs to happen. Its a different world now. Obviously graffiti is just a small example of this. The general problem is that old generations are trying to raise their kids in an old fashioned manor, while the kids&#039; natural instinct can push them to go a completely different way, causing such a kid to rebel. This is a simple conflict of interest. However, kids will always grow the way they desire, no matter what mold society attempts to put them in. Kids will be kids, and they will develop the way they want. That cant change. What can change, however, is the mold. Why create unnecessary tension? Eliminate the tight, restrictive mold, and replace it with a more loose, flexible one. Only then will peaceful co-existence in every respect be possible. If theres no room for us to move, the only option we have is to break out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;no doubt from a local tagger&#8221;. I don&#8217;t write. I would have no problem sharing with you what i write if i did, but frankly, i&#8217;m just not a very creative person. Let me tell you a bit about who i am. I am a &#8216;teen&#8217; growing up in a world which has an underlying twisted sense of values and priorities. While i understand why such systems could work in the past, i feel strongly that change needs to happen. Its a different world now. Obviously graffiti is just a small example of this. The general problem is that old generations are trying to raise their kids in an old fashioned manor, while the kids&#8217; natural instinct can push them to go a completely different way, causing such a kid to rebel. This is a simple conflict of interest. However, kids will always grow the way they desire, no matter what mold society attempts to put them in. Kids will be kids, and they will develop the way they want. That cant change. What can change, however, is the mold. Why create unnecessary tension? Eliminate the tight, restrictive mold, and replace it with a more loose, flexible one. Only then will peaceful co-existence in every respect be possible. If theres no room for us to move, the only option we have is to break out.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am well aware of the legality of graffiti. Thats not the point. You have grown up from an entirely diffrent generation that I have. You have grown up seeing things in a very clean, black and white, and generally close minded perspective. To you, if somethings illegal, it is unacceptable, unsightly, and morally wrong. Theres so much more to it then that. Sure, its illegal, but it is an expression. An expression of modern day culture. Something i doubt you would understand. Its not your fault. Its not anyones fault really. Its just two generations trying to co-exist.

Graffiti isn&#039;t only about the the created work, or how it was applied. What really makes graffiti what it is, would be about were its applied. Its an urban sub culture, therefore it takes place on an urban enviroment. Graff on canvas isn&#039;t graff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am well aware of the legality of graffiti. Thats not the point. You have grown up from an entirely diffrent generation that I have. You have grown up seeing things in a very clean, black and white, and generally close minded perspective. To you, if somethings illegal, it is unacceptable, unsightly, and morally wrong. Theres so much more to it then that. Sure, its illegal, but it is an expression. An expression of modern day culture. Something i doubt you would understand. Its not your fault. Its not anyones fault really. Its just two generations trying to co-exist.</p>
<p>Graffiti isn&#8217;t only about the the created work, or how it was applied. What really makes graffiti what it is, would be about were its applied. Its an urban sub culture, therefore it takes place on an urban enviroment. Graff on canvas isn&#8217;t graff.</p>
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		<title>By: mjagger</title>
		<link>http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2008/06/kerrisdale-tagger-update.html/comment-page-1/#comment-463</link>
		<dc:creator>mjagger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Stop wasting your time on people who give the city character&quot; ... classic. I don&#039;t think anyone would have a problem with people adding character to buildings that they owned themselves... it&#039;s when you add character to something that someone else owns that it becomes a crime.

FYI.. we didn&#039;t post anywhere other than on this blog... anywhere else it showed up was via other readers.

In terms of this being about humiliation, if it was, the video would still be up. As soon as the person in the video was identified, the video was removed.

We are still trying to figure out who the burglars are... so, if you&#039;d like to help, please post a link to that video  and/or send it to whoever you know that might recognize them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Stop wasting your time on people who give the city character&#8221; &#8230; classic. I don&#8217;t think anyone would have a problem with people adding character to buildings that they owned themselves&#8230; it&#8217;s when you add character to something that someone else owns that it becomes a crime.</p>
<p>FYI.. we didn&#8217;t post anywhere other than on this blog&#8230; anywhere else it showed up was via other readers.</p>
<p>In terms of this being about humiliation, if it was, the video would still be up. As soon as the person in the video was identified, the video was removed.</p>
<p>We are still trying to figure out who the burglars are&#8230; so, if you&#8217;d like to help, please post a link to that video  and/or send it to whoever you know that might recognize them.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Block my comment as you wish, but at least some will get to read it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is bullshit,  hours of service is outrageous, the punishment  doesn&#039;t fit the crime here, and you guys are just power hungry. Stop wasting your time on people who give the city character, and start cracking down on robberies and other serious acts. You say it didnt take you longer than 36 hours to catch the tagger, but what about the three robbers who you got a CLEAR facial shot on, not to mention a car, and im sure a partial plate if you got off your ass and tried. And posting the video on Youtube, Facebook, and this blog? You guys knew that just going to schools would be enough to get the guy. You want to humiliate people more then anything here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is bullshit,  hours of service is outrageous, the punishment  doesn&#8217;t fit the crime here, and you guys are just power hungry. Stop wasting your time on people who give the city character, and start cracking down on robberies and other serious acts. You say it didnt take you longer than 36 hours to catch the tagger, but what about the three robbers who you got a CLEAR facial shot on, not to mention a car, and im sure a partial plate if you got off your ass and tried. And posting the video on Youtube, Facebook, and this blog? You guys knew that just going to schools would be enough to get the guy. You want to humiliate people more then anything here.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
		<link>http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2008/06/kerrisdale-tagger-update.html/comment-page-1/#comment-445</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great story, thanks for sharing.  Security camera systems are a great tool for verification of burglar alarm activations too.  This helps to reduce false alarms and concern police resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great story, thanks for sharing.  Security camera systems are a great tool for verification of burglar alarm activations too.  This helps to reduce false alarms and concern police resources.</p>
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