Comments on: Why millions of home alarm systems are useless… http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html A blog to help keep you up to date on home & community security issues on Vancouver's Westside as well as the continuing development and growth of Provident Security Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:44:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Aprile http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html/comment-page-2/#comment-1289 Aprile Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:24:57 +0000 http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html#comment-1289 Thanks for the information... very helpful. Had the installer mount the sirens in two places. Siren #1 is mounted in the main furnace duct at the furnace, which allows the siren to be heard ALL over the house very loudly!! Most other systems I've seen in other homes you can hear the siren well in one part of the house but not in another part of the house. Mounting in the furnace duct eliminated that problem. Siren #2 is mounted in the turret on the roof with a yellow strobe light mounted on top of the turret. Our control station is mounted in the master bedroom closet with a deadbolt on the door. Each keypad is mounted out of sight from windows. Thanks for the tips!! Thanks for the information… very helpful. Had the installer mount the sirens in two places. Siren #1 is mounted in the main furnace duct at the furnace, which allows the siren to be heard ALL over the house very loudly!! Most other systems I’ve seen in other homes you can hear the siren well in one part of the house but not in another part of the house. Mounting in the furnace duct eliminated that problem. Siren #2 is mounted in the turret on the roof with a yellow strobe light mounted on top of the turret. Our control station is mounted in the master bedroom closet with a deadbolt on the door. Each keypad is mounted out of sight from windows. Thanks for the tips!!

]]> By: JRW http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html/comment-page-2/#comment-1249 JRW Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:20:49 +0000 http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html#comment-1249 What would stop a thief from using a cell jammer to defeat the cell phone and cutting the phone line? (Assuming its the right one and not a dummy What would stop a thief from using a cell jammer to defeat the cell phone and cutting the phone line? (Assuming its the right one and not a dummy

]]> By: caine http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html/comment-page-2/#comment-1041 caine Sat, 03 Oct 2009 04:35:43 +0000 http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html#comment-1041 Thanks for this information. It will help lot of people get what they need and not get ripped off. Thanks! Thanks for this information. It will help lot of people get what they need and not get ripped off. Thanks!

]]> By: Russell Standage http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html/comment-page-2/#comment-931 Russell Standage Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:39:54 +0000 http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html#comment-931 This blog post is going to help my company in Salt Lake City Utah. We are going to change the way we install our systems from now on by taking some of the approaches you mentioned. Thanks. This blog post is going to help my company in Salt Lake City Utah. We are going to change the way we install our systems from now on by taking some of the approaches you mentioned.
Thanks.

]]> By: Judy http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html/comment-page-2/#comment-918 Judy Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:56:15 +0000 http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html#comment-918 Great article and advice. I had no idea of what I needed to look for when shopping around for a home alarm system. Thanks. Great article and advice. I had no idea of what I needed to look for when shopping around for a home alarm system. Thanks.

]]> By: Pinnacle Security http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html/comment-page-2/#comment-864 Pinnacle Security Fri, 08 May 2009 10:50:31 +0000 http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html#comment-864 Many alarm panel mfg's have internet transmission modules. DSC, Ademco and now Paradox have modules which can accomodate your needs. There are also several universal versions which can connect to almost any alarm panel on the market. Many alarm panel mfg’s have internet transmission modules. DSC, Ademco and now Paradox have modules which can accomodate your needs. There are also several universal versions which can connect to almost any alarm panel on the market.

]]> By: Randy http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html/comment-page-2/#comment-861 Randy Mon, 04 May 2009 21:43:30 +0000 http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html#comment-861 most crooks are low lifes looking for a quick score. Sure the "cat burglar" has skills and will be able to defeat almost any sound system. The main effect an alarm has is to detour the criminal from even attempting the break in. Most criminals who break a window or kick a door in and hear the alarm go off will just run away quick. Sure they can ripp the unit off the wall but they still can't be sure a signal wan't sent. I have the glass-break feature. It sends a distress signal instantly. Sure the system posted above may not be ideal but should work well enough. I also agree a cellualr unit is the best way to go... most crooks are low lifes looking for a quick score. Sure the “cat burglar” has skills and will be able to defeat almost any sound system. The main effect an alarm has is to detour the criminal from even attempting the break in. Most criminals who break a window or kick a door in and hear the alarm go off will just run away quick. Sure they can ripp the unit off the wall but they still can’t be sure a signal wan’t sent. I have the glass-break feature. It sends a distress signal instantly. Sure the system posted above may not be ideal but should work well enough. I also agree a cellualr unit is the best way to go…

]]> By: mjagger http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html/comment-page-2/#comment-829 mjagger Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:28:05 +0000 http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html#comment-829 @mikehill Irrespective of monitoring cost, unless you have private response that guarantees a response time... all companies are exactly the same. Whether it is ADT, Brinks, HSM or any other 'low cost' provider, the issue is the same. The only reason for having a monitored alarm is to generate an immediate response. The Police in most cities in North America simply CANNOT respond fast enough... so the results are the same no matter who (or what) you pay for monitoring. I've written a number of posts on this topic... most recently <a href="http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2009/03/westside-burglary-highlights-the-need-for-private-and-immediate-response.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> ... click <a href="http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2009/02/why-police-response-to-burglar-alarms-doesnt-work.html" rel="nofollow">here </a>for a video clip where I explain why Police response does not work. @mikehill Irrespective of monitoring cost, unless you have private response that guarantees a response time… all companies are exactly the same. Whether it is ADT, Brinks, HSM or any other ‘low cost’ provider, the issue is the same.

The only reason for having a monitored alarm is to generate an immediate response. The Police in most cities in North America simply CANNOT respond fast enough… so the results are the same no matter who (or what) you pay for monitoring.

I’ve written a number of posts on this topic… most recently here … click here for a video clip where I explain why Police response does not work.

]]> By: mikehill http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html/comment-page-2/#comment-828 mikehill Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:20:24 +0000 http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html#comment-828 I'm wondering what the quality of the low cost monitoring companies is. I am spending over $30.00 a month on ADT, but when my alarm went off, it still took the police 4 hours to come to my house to check. If home alarms are such a low priority to the police, why spend the money on ADT; what is the main difference between ADT's monitoring and the lower cost companies? Don't they all just call the police if an alarm goes off? I’m wondering what the quality of the low cost monitoring companies is. I am spending over $30.00 a month on ADT, but when my alarm went off, it still took the police 4 hours to come to my house to check.
If home alarms are such a low priority to the police, why spend the money on ADT; what is the main difference between ADT’s monitoring and the lower cost companies? Don’t they all just call the police if an alarm goes off?

]]> By: ADT Home Security Solutions http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html/comment-page-2/#comment-827 ADT Home Security Solutions Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:09:21 +0000 http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html#comment-827 Max you are 100% right! ADT would never install something like that. ADT is dependable, affordable and can solve home security solutions without a doubt. Nice post MAX! Max you are 100% right! ADT would never install something like that. ADT is dependable, affordable and can solve home security solutions without a doubt. Nice post MAX!

]]> By: mjagger http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html/comment-page-2/#comment-810 mjagger Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:17:37 +0000 http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html#comment-810 @Paul ... I totally agree that you get what you pay for... but I also think that the way these systems are marketed is very misleading. @Paul … I totally agree that you get what you pay for… but I also think that the way these systems are marketed is very misleading.

]]> By: Paul http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html/comment-page-2/#comment-809 Paul Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:32:39 +0000 http://www.providentsecurity.ca/blog/2006/10/criminal_instal.html#comment-809 The Lynx is a $99.00 install and $32.00 a month system. You get what you pay for. Check out WWW.DMP.COM and look at the XT30/50. I have installed alarm systems for over 14 years and this system is the best bang for the buck. The network communication works flawlessly and transmits with in a second, By the time the keypad shows the alarm central has it. With the built in cell back up (XT50) it is completely redundant. You will pay a little more but like I said you get what you pay for. The Lynx is a $99.00 install and $32.00 a month system. You get what you pay for.
Check out http://WWW.DMP.COM and look at the XT30/50. I have installed alarm systems for over 14 years and this system is the best bang for the buck. The network communication works flawlessly and transmits with in a second, By the time the keypad shows the alarm central has it. With the built in cell back up (XT50) it is completely redundant.
You will pay a little more but like I said you get what you pay for.

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